What Car - 1.4 DSG review

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tobydog
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What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by tobydog » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:29 pm

What Car did a comprehensive review of the Ateca some time ago and gave it great scores. I've just received this link where they specifically drive and test the 1.4 DSG. Still looking great although I have ordered a manual.

My only concern is the ride. I've only seen one criticism on here for the 19" wheels and it was referred to as harsh. No one seems to complain about the standard 18" wheels that come with the Xcellence. I suppose it really depends what you're used to. Are people generally happy with it? On my test drives I did pick up on the ride but then I wasn't expecting a soft ride.

http://www.whatcar.com/news/seat-ateca- ... and-specs/
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by NeilW » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:31 pm

I've got no complaints on the standard 18" wheels. I was impressed that the dealer took me on a route with speed bumps for the test drive. My back does play up from time-to-time but the Ateca hasn't set it off at all so far.
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by Golfmk56 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:58 pm

I find the ride comfort on 18" rims on the hard side, but that's exactly what I like.

I test drove my old car on 18" alloys and I thought it was alright so bought the thing, but chose the std 17" rims. I got rid of the car 18mths later for a variety of reasons, one of the minor reasons being ride comfort. Anything over 50mph on a bumpy B road and it was like sitting on a trampolene. Yet most of the reports I read said the car rode well on 17" wheels.

Only you can decide if it rides well - try looking for a test car as near as possible to the specification you intend to purchase.

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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by Fred99 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:05 pm

They comment on "jerkiness" when moving off, which is caused by the autohold feature. This can be dealt with by careful use of the accelerator. A very gentle nudge will disconnect the autohold and start it creeping. If you prefer, you can turn off the autohold by pressing down on the button and that disables it until you restart. Sadly you cannot seem to re-enable it without a restart.

All that happens without it, is that it behaves like a normal auto where you keep your foot on the brake until you wish to move off, which it will do without the jerkiness. Personally, it doesn't give me a problem once I got used to it.
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by Sidelight » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:26 pm

I've had absolutely no problem with my 19" wheels, nothing to complain about at all. Much ado about nothing in my opinion.

I moved from a car with 16/17" wheels and noticed little difference.
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by PaulT00 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:16 pm

Fred99 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:05 pm
If you prefer, you can turn off the autohold by pressing down on the button and that disables it until you restart. Sadly you cannot seem to re-enable it without a restart.
I don't know if this is due to a software setting somewhere, but my Big Blue Bus allows me to switch the autohold on and off at will - the button acts as a toggle, press once for off and again to turn it back on. Might be that you have to have your foot on the brake to do it, though...?
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by Fred99 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:03 pm

I need to try it again, but I think that, yes, you can turn it on again, but it did not go back to turning on automatically.

Wii try it tomorrow.
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by Newtoseat » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:00 pm

This is my first DSG car, hopefully my last! I agree with the gearbox aspects of the review. Having covered around 270K miles in my last three automatic vehicles I much prefer the control and progressive take-up of a traditional auto. I don't use auto hold, but the gearbox still jerks from a standstill when trying to get out into a gap in traffic. No doubt I will get used to it over the next four years, perhaps by then an electric powered vehicle will be an option. I can't say it's a step forward for fuel consumption either, it's smaller and 200kg lighter than my last car but uses more fuel. It's not particularly refined either, it has the same low rpm gear whine as the 1.4 Audi Q3 demonstrator I tried. I don't have high hopes it will cope with the miles I did in my last car (119K). My opinion of course, no doubt someone will be along in a minute to tell me it's my fault somehow and my opinion is wrong...

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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by Fred99 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:42 am

PaulT00 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:16 pm
Fred99 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:05 pm
If you prefer, you can turn off the autohold by pressing down on the button and that disables it until you restart. Sadly you cannot seem to re-enable it without a restart.
I don't know if this is due to a software setting somewhere, but my Big Blue Bus allows me to switch the autohold on and off at will - the button acts as a toggle, press once for off and again to turn it back on. Might be that you have to have your foot on the brake to do it, though...?
I had another play with it and you are quite right, you can put it back on manually. I was confusing it with the fact that if you switch off with AH off, it will stay off when you restart.

The other thing I found was that with AH on, the parking brake comes on automatically when you are in Park as soon as you turn the ignition off or open the door. If you have AH off, then when you stop and go into Park, the parking brake does not come on automatically so you must put it on manually.

I hope that is clear, but it is complicated! Tell me if you find different.
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Re: What Car - 1.4 DSG review

Post by PaulT00 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:34 pm

Fred99 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:42 am
PaulT00 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:16 pm
Fred99 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:05 pm
If you prefer, you can turn off the autohold by pressing down on the button and that disables it until you restart. Sadly you cannot seem to re-enable it without a restart.
I don't know if this is due to a software setting somewhere, but my Big Blue Bus allows me to switch the autohold on and off at will - the button acts as a toggle, press once for off and again to turn it back on. Might be that you have to have your foot on the brake to do it, though...?
I had another play with it and you are quite right, you can put it back on manually. I was confusing it with the fact that if you switch off with AH off, it will stay off when you restart.

The other thing I found was that with AH on, the parking brake comes on automatically when you are in Park as soon as you turn the ignition off or open the door. If you have AH off, then when you stop and go into Park, the parking brake does not come on automatically so you must put it on manually.

I hope that is clear, but it is complicated! Tell me if you find different.
That's exactly what I found. And to reiterate what I just wrote on the 'DSG driving tips' thread, if you don't ensure the parking brake is set then the car is only held stationary by the parking pawl in the gearbox, which is a small component which might break under the load if e.g. you park on a hill without setting the parking brake.

My usual routine is
starting - start the engine, press parking brake button to release handbrake, press auto hold button to deactivate auto hold.
drive around mostly without auto hold, unless I am in a traffic queue in which case I toggle auto hold on and off at will to have the effect of the handbrake.
stopping - pull up, foot on footbrake, shift gearbox to Park, toggle auto hold back on, press start/stop button to stop engine. Car auto-engages the parking brake during shutdown. Take foot off footbrake and exit vehicle.
The Big Blue Bus : Ateca Xcellence 190 TDI 4Drive DSG, Lava Blue, 18", Heated Windscreen, Panoramic roof, Xcellence Pack, Adv Comfort & Driving pack plus, double boot floor OTR 17-MAR-2017

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