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1.5 engine software updates

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#1 ·
Just wondering if there are any ateca owners who have the 1.5 evo 1st gear engine problems that have been contacted by their dealers or seat regarding the software updates
I notice on the skoda & volkswagen forums that the updates have started to be installed with some success it seems.
I am one of the unfortunates that has seen my 2019 excellence model affected, and am currently in a hire car courtesy seat uk while i await the fix
 
#53 ·
Teo said:
No Pal, nobody pays You. You are just a common internet troll. The engine in other cars was in use for more than 2 years already. Let me, again, prove what I am saying: https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/golf-with-new-1-dot-5-tsi-golf-1-dot-5-tsi-act-110-kw-slash-150-ps-6-dot-2-6-dot-1-urban-4-dot-4-4-dot-2-extra-urban-5-dot-1-4-dot-9-combined-co2-emissions-in-g-slash-km-116-112-combined-efficiency-class-b-dot-engine-now-available-to-order-1120
As You see in example VW Golf was available at 30th of March 2017.

Please disappear and/or find some other car manufacturer for Your scams.
This of course doesn`t mean the VW has no problem. On the contrary. But their problem is a faulty engine only, not you, Mr. Ralph_Troll.

Redarding the new soft - there is none working so far, so all we need is to wait or to give the car back.
WOW !!! :eek:
Strong words and aggression there on that post,
I didn't realize you were a moderator of the forum, there is no need to attack another user simply because your opinion differs from any other user.
This is a friendly discussion forum where members post their views on topics.

You seem very confident in what you post.
I for one am inclined to die with Ralph_Malph ( proper user name and not the name calling you lowered yourself to.

I as a friendly member have reported your post to the mods as I take offence to it.
 
#54 ·
Dear Vectra, there is a huge difference between "different opinion" and somebody who tries to mislead people on purpose. I asked for the evidence about the change in the engine in the year 2019. He offered none, but said he does not need to do it. I showed the evidence he was wrong. Then You may read what he said. I fully uphold what I said about the troll.

As an Ateca owner I know that any actions which would rely on the statements of the troll could lead to problems. Thats why I think it was very important to clarify his false "theories".
 
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#56 ·
just did some read on on other forums and some skoda karoq owners reported the software update fixed the issue for them. So good news on that. Mine is going in on Thursday for it will keep people updated. It seems people are arguing more about the issue then updating with actual their own experiences which would be helpful to people like me
 
#57 ·
Ok, so back to our topic ;)

What is the current situation with the update? So far I haven't heard many (if any) post software update reports from Ateca users.

I am on the fence regarding the update, do not know if it is worth at all in my case.

I sort of understand what the severe symptoms could feel like since I have both in very light form. A very slight unevenness at cold start sometimes and some lack of power in second gear at very low rpm. The first does not bother me at all to be honest, since it is too slight, the 2nd gear "flat spot" happened twice in two months and 2K miles at very low rpm and I just raise it to 700-1000 now and the car is pulling quite impressively actually. (This is from the one who was driving a Mini Cooper S with a 2 litre turbo before that.)

In my case the effects are very similar to other Miller cycle engines from other manufacturers, and from that perspective it is indeed an engine characteristic rather than a faulty engine. So I don't expect the update to improve my car. Probably the variable turbo charge which was implemented here to compensate for the Miller (or as they call it Budac) cycle at low rpm is just not as effective as they hoped it would be.

That's how I see it anyway.

And for the sake of balance I have to say that this engine is over three y.o. already, many cars made well over 50K and I haven't heard any complains about the pistons, rings, belts, valves, overheating, high oil consumption etc etc. Very much unlike the early 1.4 TSI of old which was initially blighted with defects. I hope it is a good sign. Don't kill me.
 
#58 ·
Sash said:
Ok, so back to our topic ;)

What is the current situation with the update? So far I haven't heard many (if any) post software update reports from Ateca users.

I am on the fence regarding the update, do not know if it is worth at all in my case.

I sort of understand what the severe symptoms could feel like since I have both in very light form. A very slight unevenness at cold start sometimes and some lack of power in second gear at very low rpm. The first does not bother me at all to be honest, since it is too slight, the 2nd gear "flat spot" happened twice in two months and 2K miles at very low rpm and I just raise it to 700-1000 and the car is pulling quite impressively actually. (This is from the one who was driving a Mini Cooper S with a 2 litre turbo before that.)

In my case the effects are very similar to other Miller cycle engines from other manufacturers, and from that perspective it is indeed an engine characteristic rather than a faulty engine. So I don't expect the update to improve my car. Probably the variable turbo charge which was implemented here to compensate for the Miller (or as they call it Budac) cycle at low rpm is just not as effective as they hoped it would be.

That's how I see it anyway.

And for the sake of balance I have to say that this engine is over three y.o. already, many car made well over 50K and I haven't heard any complains about the pistons, rings, belts, valves, overheating, high oil consumption etc etc. Very much unlike the 1.4 TSI of old which was initially blighted with defects. I hope it is good sign. Don't kill me.
have you booked or had the software update? for me personally i am having the cold start kagaroo issue..not noticed 2nd gear issue..but i have a DSG not a manual
 
#59 ·
No I haven't, as I said I am not sure if it's worth it in my particular case, I'll wait and see how the updates work and maybe do it at my first service. That is next March. I am quite satisfied with the car atm. Drove it to Belgium and France recently. With their roads it is such a pleasure to drive. The suspension is made for a good smooth motorway.
 
#60 ·
Sash said:
No I haven't, as I said I am not sure if it's worth it in my particular case, I'll wait and see how the updates work and maybe do it at my first service. That is next March. I am quite satisfied with the car atm. Drove it to Belgium and France recently. With their roads it is such a pleasure to drive. The suspension is made for a good smooth motorway.
yup mine is also not as bad as people mentioned.. some have some very bad issues mainly the manual guys..but if a software update is there then why not. so got mine booked in. It is a bit annoying but i tend to let the car warm up for couple of minutes before driving away so i rarely notice the kangaroo from cold.
 
#62 ·
I have some jerkiness in 1st when col but honestly it isn't too bad. The problem is mine frequently suffers from no response at all in 2nd gear, particularly frustrating when leaving junctions, roundabouts etc when I really don't want to go down to 1st. It's a shame I didn't buy the DSG in that respect, but the point is I should be able to drive the car happily without needing to think that!

Do we know yet from those who have had the update whether it helps with this?
 
#63 ·
Mines in tomorrow so we will find out what difference it makes.

The 2nd gear pull away is a behaviour of the dsg, every dsg I have had has done this and you get used to it. My wife's Leon 1.2tsi does it, my Leon 280 did it but had enough torque to over come it.
 
#64 ·
abc123 said:
Do we know yet from those who have had the update whether it helps with this?
Hy abc123,

reading different forums seems that the update being delivered now has a primary effect on the stalling issue; I can't personally remember anyone still complaining about the stalling after the update.
On the other hand a few drivers still complain of kangarooing after the update, and some were told that a second update is due "soon" (?) to fix this issue as well.
Some drivers were also told that the engine had to "learn" (?) the new software map before the issues disappear, so were told to drive 600 miles before judging effects of the update.
 
#65 ·
They have mine booked in on Wednesday but the service lady said her Leon does the jumping and she's not aware there is a software update yet to fix this. Mines not done it since Saturday so I wonder if I've adjusted my drivers style to subconsciously accommodate it. I've fitted a dash cam in the hope that catches it happening.
 
#66 ·
Mogton said:
They have mine booked in on Wednesday but the service lady said her Leon does the jumping and she's not aware there is a software update yet to fix this. Mines not done it since Saturday so I wonder if I've adjusted my drivers style to subconsciously accommodate it. I've fitted a dash cam in the hope that catches it happening.
Yes, it seems believable that you just needed to adapt your driving style to the new car, considering that you collected her (manual gear) on Mon the 3rd and spotted the issue up to Sat the 8th.

What seems unbelievable is that "the service lady said her Leon does the jumping and she's not aware there is a software update yet to fix this"... :eek:
 
#67 ·
Unfortunately I am not able to attach a movie file here, to show You what mine kangaroo effect looked like before the software update.
After the update I still got the kangaroo effect, but a bit less, no stalling in the 2nd gear anymore, and much less problems with the shutdown of the engine when starting to move, which was a big problem for me.

The problem is I was told it is just (only) a remapping how the engine works. To sum up it is not a "fix", it is just a way to hide the problem (maybe some mechanical one), which still exists.
To sum up the update is wort it, if someone wants to have a less stresfull life with the car. But it is not a fix.

And by the way:

Rob said:
We promote a mutual code of conduct here and ask that you respect each other at all times.
This only shows that all the countries probably have slightly different culture and each language has a different load of emotions, which probably is not translateable in a simple way. In my culture it is vital to distinguish facts from fiction. And I always felt that it is vital to point out a fiction and the one who produces it.
I see that in Your culture the most vital thing is to stay as polite as possible no matter the costs. In my culture producing fiction is a bigger disrespect than pointing it out in the straightforward way. But since this is UK forum, I will stick to Your rules, no matter the costs, although i am very surprised with it all. They say one is learning during all of the life :)
 
#70 ·
Personally I'm in the UK and would much rather we all spent longer distinguishing fact from fiction.

It sounds like the update certainly helps, particularly with the stalling / lack of response. Do I just speak to the service department to book it in or do I have to go through Seat UK? I don't want numerous trips to 'diagnose' the problem first.
 
#73 ·
matthab said:
So picked the car up and it's noticeably improved just driving it off the forecourt. A lot more punchy in 1st and 2nd.

See how it goes driving it really cold and after the ecu has bedded in.
Sounds promising,
Fingers crossed for you :cool:
 
#76 ·
Thought I would share some videos of start up cold left standing over night:

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The two videos to me look virtually identical with the engine going down to 750rpm after 1:30 mins. So the map hasnt changed the cold start procedure.
 
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