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#1 ·
I understand how the various options affect the car setup, but what options can you change in the "Individual Profile" option? The manual only says that it depends on what options the car has. My car will have DSG but not 4Drive plus all the other "Driver Assist" options.
 
#2 ·
I think it's a bit of a gimmick and waste of time myself. On the 2wd anyhow!
Not sure how much difference the snow setting etc makes to the 4wd.

Have driven around switching back and fore between the modes at traffic lights, and can see no real discernable advantage to being able to change between them.

All eco seems to do is force on the stop/start and restrict AC.
Normal seems, well normal, and sport seems no different to normal to me, other than the steering feels slightly heavier, I didn't like it, and spend most of the time in normal.

On my mates Zafira he has a sport button on the dash, and it is actually is mapped differently, and gives about 40bhp extra when in sport mode. Sport on the Ateca seems to do very little.

It's all a bit vague all round really, the three settings are just described as eco, normal, sport, but when you go into each one, it just says steering, throttle etc all the same, eco, normal, or sport, with no real description of the actual differences between each setting..

In 'individual' you can just change the AC, throttle, steering etc between eco, normal or sport manually, i.e. In normal all three say 'normal', in sport all three say 'sport', in individual you can have steering as normal and throttle as sport, etc,..
 
#3 ·
The individual is so you can blend a mix of the others. The sales guy in MK had set the electric steering to pacify someone who didn't like the default. You get use to the default so it's not an issue then what do you do if you want the others, twig each time ?.

DSG sport makes a difference. Eco was totally weird in my DSG and seemed to offer resistance on the accelorator pedal and activities the stop start, the overdrive goes wild. I won't be using that and also plays havoc with diesel regeneration.

So I'll be sticking with normal and snow. They will do me fine.

I'll try to do some photos of how the menu presents on a diesel DSG.
 
#4 ·
Mine looks like this. Engine and ACC break into Normal, Sport and ECO. Obviously if you didn't have ACC you wouldnt see that. Nothing too exciting there.

I shall continue to be a Luddite and stick to Normal and Snow mode.... just need some snow.
 

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#5 ·
I suspected it was just a gimmick. Tell, can you check exactly what options come up under " engine"?

I assume that is where throttle response would be covered, but is there a Sport setting for the DSG in there as well. It seems that just select the Sport option would cover this.
 
#11 ·
I do not agree that it is a gimmick
When in ECO mode acceleration, gear changes and the steering are quite different to sport mode.
In ECO mode acceleration is much more gradual, unless you hit the floor. Gear changes are targetted to keep the revs low and the steering is less precise, so easier.
In sport mode, acceleration is immediate and very responsive. Gear changes are optimised so that if at any time you need power you have it. And the steering is fun and very responsive.
So, economy at the expense of responsiveness or power and responsiveness at the expense of economy.
I like it.
 
#12 ·
I was suggesting that the individual profile could be a gimmick, not the system itself.

What I want to know is exactly what you can select to put in your personal profile rather than use the preselected parameters.

Have you set up an individual profile, if so what did you select?
 
#13 ·
You can also fiddle with each of the settings as I recall, normal, sport, eco etc.... but I'd have to double check, 95 percent sure on that one.
 
#15 ·
With DSG Sport mode will make a big difference, but that is easier to achieve by flicking the gear lever back to select Sport mode than fiddling around with a dial.
 
#16 ·
That's true although I reckon you will have enough power in normal mode without over revving it in sport.... I know you can rev petrol more before it goes raucous as diesels do. The quick change of DSG does help you to keep the pace up whilst manual drivers stir the gear box and sometimes miss.
 
#17 ·
I always found the best way to make progress in a diesel is to short-shift anyway. With most modern turbo diesels having a torque plateau from very low down the rev range, and generally running out of puff beyond 3000rpm or so, there is little to be gained from high engine speeds... It's all about staying in the meat of the torque curve and keeping the turbo on boost.
 
#18 ·
Which is why they are boring to drive compared to a high revving turbo petrol engine.

They do exactly what they are supposed to do, but it's not so much fun!
 
#19 ·
Your not into listening to music when you drive then Freddie... we have plenty of speed cameras to catch you out via excessive speed in the UK.

Somewhere I will work in the Charlie who was flashing me since they thought I'd left my lights on... no DLR, they were needlessly driving a big 4WD with snorkel and tyres on the roof. Best to be prepared... I think they didn't like the brightness of the rear LEDs in the day light and that was foot off the brake on a DSG so no high intensity centre light.
 
#20 ·
PaulT00 said:
I always found the best way to make progress in a diesel is to short-shift anyway. With most modern turbo diesels having a torque plateau from very low down the rev range, and generally running out of puff beyond 3000rpm or so, there is little to be gained from high engine speeds... It's all about staying in the meat of the torque curve and keeping the turbo on boost.
Why I leave it in normal mode. A bit of sport driving helps with the run in, but other than that you don't need the sport setting in a diesel DSG.
 
#21 ·
Exactly. I'm all for high revving petrol engines in their place, but their place is no longer day-to-day driving in the UK, sadly. I'll freely admit I miss my old Impreza Turbo, or even my other half's old Mk1 Leon Cupra, but you could never use the performance in normal driving without risking an immediate licence-ectomy - and the Impreza, particularly, was tiring to drive on the motorway (fairly short gearing and a rorty engine) and a pain in heavy traffic. One morning on the way to work it took me nearly an hour of crawling to get from one end of Shepherd's Bush Green to the White City roundabout and by the time I finally got past that junction and towards Holland Park the clutch was all but melting and it was not a happy car. At least in a DSG it would spend most of its time with both clutches disengaged in that situation while stationary... The traffic situation has only got worse since then, sufficiently to make a diehard performance-engine-manual-gearbox driver swap first to a TDI, and now (when the new car arrives) to a pseudo-auto. Life is just too short to wear out your left knee joint faffing with a manual in today's traffic.

Speaking of which, assuming the drive parameters are adjusted suitably for the powerplant (i.e. the gearchange plan is matched to e.g. a 1.4TSI using different settings from those in a 2.0TDI with very different power delivery) I would imagine a 1.4TSI DSG would work a lot better in normal use than the manual box on that engine. If the gearbox knows the power output profile of the engine, it should be able to avoid being unexpectedly surprised in a high gear at low revs and suddenly discovering exactly how small a 1.4 engine is to pull that much car!
 
#22 ·
On a humorous note you shouldn't be able to stall a petrol with a DSG as you do with a manual which is the curse of petrol engines over diesels. I gave up manuals in 2004, RHD with left arm ache was always worrying whether it was a heart attach or just heavy trafic. There is a 1.5 litre TSI Evo waiting in the wings which VW is holding back on, only putting in their chosen cars, which when it arrives in the Ateca may dismay 1.4 TSI owners. Least with end of the line diesel development you don't have to worry about technology replacement ;).

http://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/18509/2017-volkswagen-golf-new-engines-and-infotainment-for-best-seller

I suspect 2018 will be when that engine reaches Ateca's.
 
#23 ·
I'm not dismayed by it. It offers the same power and torque as the old engine so I cannot see any advantages at all.

What I had hoped was that they would offer one with about 180PS to make up for the old 179PS 1.8 litre they used to have in the Leon FR.

What is already dismaying 1.4Tsi owners is that now they are, at last, offering a DSG option. Bad news if you have a manual on order and wanted a DSG.
 
#24 ·
PaulT00 said:
Exactly. I'm all for high revving petrol engines in their place, but their place is no longer day-to-day driving in the UK, sadly.
I hadn't considered that aspect. I left the UK 23 years ago and last drove there in a hire car for a few days 9 years ago. It was pretty bad 23 years ago so I cannot imagine what it must be like now.

We are utterly spoilt here in Spain. Loads of new motorways with very little traffic and generally no holdups apart from those caused by accidents. Yes, there are radar speed traps, but they tend to concentrate on the main roads, not the motorways as that is where the majority of accidents occur.
 
#25 ·
I have to admit that the different modes seem to bring quite a few changes.
Eco-mode is for the shorter distances and will ensure a lower fuel consumption, while with the right driving style normal is better for longer distances. Makes the Ateca feel less responsive but that is a tradeoff I'm willing to make most of the time.

Sport is when you want to have fun and I do find there to be a big difference in acceleration and the feel while driving.

It's not an option I thought I would be using much but it has been very surprising.

Driving a 1.4 TSI manual.
 
#26 ·
Dargas said:
I have to admit that the different modes seem to bring quite a few changes.
Eco-mode is for the shorter distances and will ensure a lower fuel consumption, while with the right driving style normal is better for longer distances. Makes the Ateca feel less responsive but that is a tradeoff I'm willing to make most of the time.

Sport is when you want to have fun and I do find there to be a big difference in acceleration and the feel while driving.

It's not an option I thought I would be using much but it has been very surprising.

Driving a 1.4 TSI manual.
Yes I do love having a play with the car in sport mode and it definitely seems nippier and better acceleration. I'm not sure though if this is just in our heads as believe on reviews they state it's only on automatics that this is possible where it shifts quicker :shock: Has anyone found a description anywhere of what actually is changed by these different modes :?:
 
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