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I suspect, like many of the SUVs on the market (Tiguan, Q3, Q5 etc) it will be permanently AWD. Cant find much on the 4Drive system specifically but i imagine its akin to the 4Motion on the VW.
I have also never come across anything in the vehicle, the reviews etc that would suggest that it was selectable other than the driver profile which would effect the traction system for terrain etc.
Page 28 of the technical manual on another thread shows a diagram.
I have also never come across anything in the vehicle, the reviews etc that would suggest that it was selectable other than the driver profile which would effect the traction system for terrain etc.
Page 28 of the technical manual on another thread shows a diagram.
It's probably a Haldex system, used extensively within VW, certainly Skoda uses it with the latest generation, I think, being Haldex 5. This essentially gives about 5-10% to the front wheels and the balance to the rear. It's very effective and very quick to respond to changes in surface road conditions and weather, shifting power to whatever wheel is required. Works with a wheel in the air, I think by locking wheel brakes independently. My Yeti's have all been 4x4 and worked very well in all kinds of situations. Some of the members on Yeti forum do some reasonable off road stuff such as marshalling for forest sections of various road races. It does feel very grounded and secure. Look it up on YouTube the changes are difficult to detect as it happens so fast.
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It most certainly is the Haldex 5th generation system, according to the technical guide, which when you start reading more into the system becomes very interesting.
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Altea was also a bit clever on stability control so that now does to all four wheels one assumes.
I didn't realise that over 90 percent of the power was going to be put onto the rear wheels. I had assumed that back came in when it was required not the other way round. Never drove a rear wheel car so wonder if I'll notice it. You are suppose to notice the power moving from front to back
I didn't realise that over 90 percent of the power was going to be put onto the rear wheels. I had assumed that back came in when it was required not the other way round. Never drove a rear wheel car so wonder if I'll notice it. You are suppose to notice the power moving from front to back
@Tell, you are so right about the power split 90/10 front to back, not as I stated. I know which way round it goes but for some reason typed it incorrectly, lots going on right now.
This link is quite good at telling the story, lots of Youtube as I've said.
http://www.awdwiki.com/en/haldex/
To be honest I've rarely noticed the power shift only occasionally when pulling away on a fine gravel drive you'll feel something like a slight wheel grab. It will go from effectively 2WD to 4WD in under a 1/4 of a wheel turn.
Apologies again for my typo.
This link is quite good at telling the story, lots of Youtube as I've said.
http://www.awdwiki.com/en/haldex/
To be honest I've rarely noticed the power shift only occasionally when pulling away on a fine gravel drive you'll feel something like a slight wheel grab. It will go from effectively 2WD to 4WD in under a 1/4 of a wheel turn.
Apologies again for my typo.
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Thanks Ernie, I did think that was a strange combination or not. You never know I might get to try out the 4 Drive bit in December on my annual trip to Germany. I'm not wishing snow. I'll invest in a snow shovel if so, they are cheap there.
Seat have done away with the wiper blade hiding in the front window pillar. It's nice but in snow every wipe builds up a column of snow by the pillar, in the end you have to stop and drag out the snow out else the blades don't run correctly. I was having to do that quite frequently on one trip. Not too sure whether this change in design was due to that small issue or not. Leon Mk2's also had this motion. Haven't checked the Mk3.
I did also cast my eye over the Ateca back blades to see whether you could do the DIY trick of using Halford refills and cutting to size. I don't think so and the fronts are specialist as they were in the Altea.
Seat have done away with the wiper blade hiding in the front window pillar. It's nice but in snow every wipe builds up a column of snow by the pillar, in the end you have to stop and drag out the snow out else the blades don't run correctly. I was having to do that quite frequently on one trip. Not too sure whether this change in design was due to that small issue or not. Leon Mk2's also had this motion. Haven't checked the Mk3.
I did also cast my eye over the Ateca back blades to see whether you could do the DIY trick of using Halford refills and cutting to size. I don't think so and the fronts are specialist as they were in the Altea.
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I will look forward to that.
I'm not sure about those people planning to use Android Play or the Apple Connect or whatever it's called. Heated Windscreen can block out the satnav signal. The in built one goes to the back aerial in that option only, you see it in the technical manual although that may be due to problems fitting the sensor aerial block on the screen although I have checked to see where the non heated windscreen ones go... OK page 50 of technical manual, no its in the dash so they don't trust the windscreen. You can't retransmit the satnav signal to a smartphone so if the elements in the windscreen block out the signal there could be moaning. On a panoramic roof I reckon the signal will pass through that fine if you have it down in the resting place. Those that stick satnav systems to Windows may have issues.
I'm not sure about those people planning to use Android Play or the Apple Connect or whatever it's called. Heated Windscreen can block out the satnav signal. The in built one goes to the back aerial in that option only, you see it in the technical manual although that may be due to problems fitting the sensor aerial block on the screen although I have checked to see where the non heated windscreen ones go... OK page 50 of technical manual, no its in the dash so they don't trust the windscreen. You can't retransmit the satnav signal to a smartphone so if the elements in the windscreen block out the signal there could be moaning. On a panoramic roof I reckon the signal will pass through that fine if you have it down in the resting place. Those that stick satnav systems to Windows may have issues.
@Tell,
I'm playing with Android Auto in the new yeti via Smartlink, seems to work just fine with heated everything, front and rear windows, mirrors, seats no issues so far. Still trying to see how things work out best fro me, built in Sat Nav of Android Auto using Google maps.
I'm playing with Android Auto in the new yeti via Smartlink, seems to work just fine with heated everything, front and rear windows, mirrors, seats no issues so far. Still trying to see how things work out best fro me, built in Sat Nav of Android Auto using Google maps.
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Haven't you got a panoramic roof ?, I think that will let in the signal you need 360 degrees fix although you can have a few gaps in the arc. The example is here, if you lost the front ones interfered by the wire in the heated windscreen you wouldn't get a good lock:
I will have to do a before and after. There is debate online about heated windscreens messing satnav up which is why for the Atecas with the heated windscreen they move the GPS aerial into the sharks fin - if the Ateca had one - the back aerial assembly. Probably like the TDI150 engine, an engineering hole of things not matching.
I've got Android Auto loaded up ready but I will use it in emergencies when the car satnav is clearly not right. Went onto that two weekends ago when the M25 and M1 snarled up but everybody else was on the same back road route.
I have had the VW Car-net loaded up and looked at that on the remote possibility that it might work with the Seat Navigation Plus. UK VW owners with the Discovery Pro can send map coordinates to the head end. I will try that out when I get the car. They can't do anything else with it. In Germany it will pop the doors etc
I'm understanding better now what the wifi bit of the Seat Navigation Plus does, one of the things it can do is turns the car into a wifi router but since the car doesn't have a SIM that's only for connecting up the car to a dlna music server which is your smartphone or device that you put online via wifi into it. Gracenotes, since you have asked (
) basically that will sort out your album art if you don't have any embedded in the file, don't have a file that is no more than 500x500 with a name such as cover.jpg in the directory, so it's a fall back position. Quite a bit about the size of the album art. The manual tells you about the the order that it looks for album art. Will only look for Gracenotes on the Plus, but does the rest for the lesser mortals.... I'd aim to get an album art file on all music rather than rely on Gracenotes. I don't go above 500x500 for indoor use.
Oh yes and the Navigation Plus has twice the power output than the standard system. Then it gets confusing on the technical manual, it tries to say if you have Seat Sound you have Navigation Plus, I'll want my money back if that's the case. Think the technical authors have drifted at that point.
I will have to do a before and after. There is debate online about heated windscreens messing satnav up which is why for the Atecas with the heated windscreen they move the GPS aerial into the sharks fin - if the Ateca had one - the back aerial assembly. Probably like the TDI150 engine, an engineering hole of things not matching.
I've got Android Auto loaded up ready but I will use it in emergencies when the car satnav is clearly not right. Went onto that two weekends ago when the M25 and M1 snarled up but everybody else was on the same back road route.
I have had the VW Car-net loaded up and looked at that on the remote possibility that it might work with the Seat Navigation Plus. UK VW owners with the Discovery Pro can send map coordinates to the head end. I will try that out when I get the car. They can't do anything else with it. In Germany it will pop the doors etc
I'm understanding better now what the wifi bit of the Seat Navigation Plus does, one of the things it can do is turns the car into a wifi router but since the car doesn't have a SIM that's only for connecting up the car to a dlna music server which is your smartphone or device that you put online via wifi into it. Gracenotes, since you have asked (
) basically that will sort out your album art if you don't have any embedded in the file, don't have a file that is no more than 500x500 with a name such as cover.jpg in the directory, so it's a fall back position. Quite a bit about the size of the album art. The manual tells you about the the order that it looks for album art. Will only look for Gracenotes on the Plus, but does the rest for the lesser mortals.... I'd aim to get an album art file on all music rather than rely on Gracenotes. I don't go above 500x500 for indoor use.Oh yes and the Navigation Plus has twice the power output than the standard system. Then it gets confusing on the technical manual, it tries to say if you have Seat Sound you have Navigation Plus, I'll want my money back if that's the case. Think the technical authors have drifted at that point.
Yep, I do have a Pano Sun roof, however, many of the satellites are relatively low on the horizon. In reality you only need 3 to fix your position with any degree of accuracy. I have to think that as the infotainment systems are so integral to modern cars that Seat et.al. would have tested this potential issue. The heater in the front window is only a strip at the lower edge. Interestingly whilst we have the sun roof it's rarely used other than it lets in some nice defused light to the interior of the car, particularly useful if you have dark seats. (@Tell, see how I carefully avoided the words 'leather seats')
I'm sure your going to be OK, you've already done a lot of up front research.
I use 500x500 art work but I found an app called Metaadatics, for my Mac, very good it allows you to get the id3 tags and album artwork that I found sometimes missing in Gracenotes. It's easy to import jpg's for old albums that I have or ones that appear to be too new to have been catalogued by Gracenote. I do use iTunes but that has a mind of it's own and seems, to me, to be areal pain trying export correctly formated albums.
I'm sure your going to be OK, you've already done a lot of up front research.
I use 500x500 art work but I found an app called Metaadatics, for my Mac, very good it allows you to get the id3 tags and album artwork that I found sometimes missing in Gracenotes. It's easy to import jpg's for old albums that I have or ones that appear to be too new to have been catalogued by Gracenote. I do use iTunes but that has a mind of it's own and seems, to me, to be areal pain trying export correctly formated albums.
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It's those hiking trips where I do use the device at the front of the car but even if the heated front screen elements blocked the microwaves I reckon the panoramic roof would let in sufficient like you . May not be the case for people with out panoramic roofs. I need a fair few for a good lock. Bit more than three, 8 or 9 your 3D fix, usually stops at about 11.
It seems that Seat uses the same adopted standard of looking for album art in the directory of no more than 500x500 - recent anyhow. I wasn't sure of that when I embarked on digitising all my CDs into Flac, I wouldn't have to embed a tag on them in another pass through. I use EAC, the updated one find nearly all album art from the free database and embeds that into the file, if it doesn't a Google of the album and picture, then a scan across the screen looking for the appropriate size does the trick. Piacciaso can be used failing that to save at a different resolution. That gets them into a fit state for DNLA home use. Mac what's that .
I got a stream of various sources and software to get to the final end point. Saving the audio sound of mp4 video to flac ensures it doesn't get recoded which is the trick of Flac. Unpack it to the WAV file using software that decodes how it was originally encoded then create a Flac, larger file but least not passing it through different recoding route. I have a 20 year collection of MD recordings so my next task is to seperate those into where I don't have a CD, can't get a copy, then to re-record them via a sound card using optical in and re track and Flac them. Will use Audacity for that, Foobar has its uses and Xilisoft. I will have taken delivery of the car before I finish this project.
. May not be the case for people with out panoramic roofs. I need a fair few for a good lock. Bit more than three, 8 or 9 your 3D fix, usually stops at about 11.It seems that Seat uses the same adopted standard of looking for album art in the directory of no more than 500x500 - recent anyhow. I wasn't sure of that when I embarked on digitising all my CDs into Flac, I wouldn't have to embed a tag on them in another pass through. I use EAC, the updated one find nearly all album art from the free database and embeds that into the file, if it doesn't a Google of the album and picture, then a scan across the screen looking for the appropriate size does the trick. Piacciaso can be used failing that to save at a different resolution. That gets them into a fit state for DNLA home use. Mac what's that
.I got a stream of various sources and software to get to the final end point. Saving the audio sound of mp4 video to flac ensures it doesn't get recoded which is the trick of Flac. Unpack it to the WAV file using software that decodes how it was originally encoded then create a Flac, larger file but least not passing it through different recoding route. I have a 20 year collection of MD recordings so my next task is to seperate those into where I don't have a CD, can't get a copy, then to re-record them via a sound card using optical in and re track and Flac them. Will use Audacity for that, Foobar has its uses and Xilisoft. I will have taken delivery of the car before I finish this project.
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RuthB in my continuous research while impatiently waiting for mine to arrive :roll: I spotted some info on this. I thought there was going to be a separate button for it but apparently it's turned on and off in the infotainment touch screen. If I remember where I saw it I will post the link, think it was in the car manual.RuthB said:
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I've seen them discussing it on the German Ateca site. There they were saying the windscreen blower button.
What the manual says...
fuse 14, 40 amp
... not much else except in relation to the heated windscreen jets where it says ambient temperature.
The German forum has a long thread and finishes at post 145 which as Kindness says a setting via the screen and automatic based on the ambient temperature
https://www.ateca-forum.de/index.php/Thread/345-Windschutzscheibenheizung/?postID=11841&s=feaf667e8f770d81a8a5a4fb56277e42791ea6a8
What the manual says...
fuse 14, 40 amp
... not much else except in relation to the heated windscreen jets where it says ambient temperature.
The German forum has a long thread and finishes at post 145 which as Kindness says a setting via the screen and automatic based on the ambient temperature
https://www.ateca-forum.de/index.php/Thread/345-Windschutzscheibenheizung/?postID=11841&s=feaf667e8f770d81a8a5a4fb56277e42791ea6a8
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Tell I think it might have mentioned it in that excellent manual you found that went into detail about the speaker locations and remote heating option they have in Europe.
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Hold on...
page 57 a picture of the display screen.
I suspect you toggle it on and off, so if you though you didn't need automatic you would turn it off. Perhaps it goes, automatic, manual, off or something. That we don't know. Post 129 on the thread I think there is a picture taking inside an Ateca with it, the guys got a crazy delivery time if you looked at their notes down the bottom.
I found a video of it's action on a VW
page 57 a picture of the display screen.
I suspect you toggle it on and off, so if you though you didn't need automatic you would turn it off. Perhaps it goes, automatic, manual, off or something. That we don't know. Post 129 on the thread I think there is a picture taking inside an Ateca with it, the guys got a crazy delivery time if you looked at their notes down the bottom.
I found a video of it's action on a VW
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RuthB as tell mentioned it's in this manual he found on page 57. Here's another link to it to save you digging arount
http://vwts.ru/pps/pps_seat_163_seat_ateca_eng.pdf
http://vwts.ru/pps/pps_seat_163_seat_ateca_eng.pdf
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