I might be warming to leather seats if the discount was great enough. I have a veggie partner who obviously doesn't like sitting on dead animal skins so it is a real issue to ask your partner to drive a car that isn't animal friendly or even sit in it. The cows are killed for their leather not to eat, leather isn't a by-product of the slaughter for meat but the reason for the animals to be slaughtered in the first place for the leather trade.SeatFan said:@Tell - you've made some really good contributions here, and I would like to thank you for that but with the greatest respect I think you need to get over the leather seat 'issue' and not bring it up on every thread!
The Altea was launched for the young and the sporty types. Seat marketed it as a multiple sports vehicle (MSV) rather than an MPV and claimed a new segment with it. It's just older people bought them. I check out the age group of Altea drivers then and now and it's the same. It will be interesting to see whether the Leon crowd buy the Ateca but it does amuse me considerably when you see people driving SUVs with the seats set down low pretending they have a sporty car and haven't got the idea that SUVs give you the upright seating position. That's why more mature people buy the upright seating cars due to backache and ease of getting in and out. It will get you in the end, although I do know of 70 year olds that own and drive antique sports cars and have their day to day other car again as another low hung all modern car. There is a fan base of low hung cars that stretches the age bands. It comes down to whether you get backache or not and when you surrender driving or sitting in these cars by choice. The Altea (sister of the Golf Plus) brought in the people that liked the high seating position of the car which were not necessary those that did the kite surfing as I recall the advert at the time. Ateca will be families, schools runs and the mature type. But we will see. Plenty mature types drive SUVs . I want the 4drive to get out of difficulties when I move to the country and for European runs were I've had a few close shaves with getting stranded in snow.Magpie86 said:I think that may be the whole point of moving away from the altea shape to the crossover. To appeal to a wider group. They want to appeal to lower age groups, possibly why they haven't referenced the altea at all. I am 30 and have bought one. There won't be many 18 year olds in one but there certainly may be lots of 26+year old ex Leon boy racers with a family that buy one, having outgrown the Leon. It's an attempt to keep the young drivers it already has it in its cars. A decision can be based purely on practicality alone even if it's driving style doesn't justify the Leon comparison. Just my take.
With pcp deals so popular now days we don't need to be cash rich either to get in one. We also have to remember with VW, Seat and Skoda all working closely together, the marketing has to be different to even justify such closely competitive cars being released in a similar time span. Seat for the young, Skoda for the sensible and VW the marquee name holding the whole thing up, but priced accordingly. Even if when you break the cars down there is not an awful lot different aside from shape and badge. It may well be that Seat doesn't want to offer cars that suit everyone (at least initially), but just their target audience that suit the brand.
I have been round the houses looking at the best SUV for the money, i currently drive an Audi A3 2.0tdi S-Line Quatro and at 26 and about to get married i thought my next purchase had better be more suitable for a family etc.Magpie86 said:Ha fair enough Tell. I didn't even know the altea existed until my grand parents bought a new one! Got a top spec at massively discounted prices 6 months ago. It seemed nice enough but the Ateca (from pictures) seems a lot more up market. People buy different shaped cars for all different reasons, you may want the odd 4x4 jaunt, I want the raised height for loading the kids in etc. I think Seat are just jumping on a successful bandwagon and hoping the sales follow. They don't care the age of the buyers.
First edition wise, from what I remember leather was never an option from the crowd sourced spec. It was never in the ball park, no question was asked leather vs cloth.