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What happens with Seat when you pick your new car up? Do they set the service interval according to your driving habits, mileage per annum?
I used to be a firm believer in an annual oil and filter change, did it myself, but what about these new fangled devices that apparently tell you when to change the oil?

I no longer grovel around underneath pumping grease in to the prop shaft couplings and track rod ends, so do I really need to change the oil and have the car washed once a year for £250 by a dealer?

These days I only travel 7 to 8000 miles per year so will the dealer try to sell me a bargain service package that I don't need?
 

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I think they normally come set up for the (up to) two year service interval. In theory, in this case it will have been filled with the special (very expensive) long life oil. I think they are all filled the same! I understand that you can switch to the regime that suits you best.
 

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Am sure I read somewhere most modern cars check the oil constantly and how you drive affects how soon or late it brings on the service light, based on oil quality/viscosity etc...
 

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Thanks for the inputs so far, I just want to get through the warranty period and then I can get my car to my trusty independent VAG specialist.
I simply don't trust main dealers.
An example, on my current car after it's 2nd service, about 2 weeks later I had flashing red warning lights on lack of oil. I stopped the car, checked the oil level and sure enough nothing registered on the dip stick. I put in a litre of oil that I carry in the boot and got going again. Main dealer didn't want to know about where the oil had gone, if ever put in.
I had to put another litre in to get the level on the dip stick. Never used a drop after that!!!. Dealer's mechanic obviously forgot to put the right amount in or even check it.
 

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I have paid for the 3 year service pack, I do about 6-8k per year...service says 20k miles.....shouldn't you have your car serviced every year even if your below the 20k?
 

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Thank you mcderms, I've looked at your post but I don't yet have access to page 6 of the service manual and I wouldn't even bother asking the dealer what oil the car came with. Hence asking here for individual recommendations :)
 

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Phosphoric it comes with long life oil as Freddie say but you can even check this site with your VIN when you get the car and it will tell you that together with all other build data

http://nemiga.com/cat_spares/etka/seat/

I recall I might have given you oil advise and you were planning to use the 12 month / 10,000 mile oil you already had. If so, for topping up, it measures the viscosity and will reassign the car to a 12 month / 10,000 mile service. This happened to my middle brother who wasn't into these things and accused the garage of fiddling things. He created the downgrade of his service intervals.

Honest John on the subject strongly believes that two years or 20,000 miles is far to long. What you have to bear in mind the PCP / Lease community will be outing the car in 2 - 3 years so aren't so bothered about long term effects of maintenance issues.

Mine will be on annual service and I would have been doing that even if they hadn't given me compensation for the incorrect build as three years annual free service. I do check the oil level after service. My good Seat dealer of 10 years use to give generous oil helpings, others were minge and it was right down the dip stick.
 

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Thank you mcderms, I think I now have a full suite of manuals........but no car yet!
Tell, we haven't had any exchange on this subject before, must have been somebody else. The VIN number data will be good.....once I get my car :)

It would appear that my car will be delivered with long life oil so it will be up to me to sort out my own service interval. Useful ammunition when negotiating with the dealers on handover. Thank you all :)
 

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Phosphoric said:
Thank you mcderms, I think I now have a full suite of manuals........but no car yet!
Tell, we haven't had any exchange on this subject before, must have been somebody else. The VIN number data will be good.....once I get my car :)

It would appear that my car will be delivered with long life oil so it will be up to me to sort out my own service interval. Useful ammunition when negotiating with the dealers on handover. Thank you all :)
You're welcome :D
And as I said on my other post to Linda, even though the Ateca is a company lease, as with my A3 and Polo which I own and which get new oil & filters and serviced every year irrespective of the mileage, I am willing to pay for oil changes every 10,000 miles / 12 months on the Ateca even if the lease company won't, purely in case I decide to buy it at the end of the 3 year lease, as that would matter to me. Contrary to views elsewhere, not everyone on PCPs or leases doesn't have much care, or a vested interest in, how the car is maintained. If I let the car go back, the next owner gets an enhanced service history at my expense :D
 

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An interesting perspective mcderms, one of which I agree with to a degree. That is, having been a company car driver for many years, I have always treated the car as if it were my own....... some people have an affinity to animals and children and all manner of other things, I treat mechanical objects with the same respect.
I almost agree with you on annual oil and filter changes annually but not quite!

I feel for the oil company experts that have laboured to produce a product that does not require a change on a regular basis only to see some people sticking with old traditions regardless.
I worked for 30 years in the water industry helping to produce the finest quality drinking water in the world only to see some people still throwing it on the ground to water a bit of grass or still buying ludicrously expensive bottled water to drink.
Maybe the oil company people do have a product that will last more than one year. :)
 

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Phosphoric said:
... I just want to get through the warranty period and then I can get my car to my trusty independent VAG specialist.
You don't seem to understand the warranty conditions.

You can have your car serviced at your trusty indi VAG specialist or wherever you like right now. As long as the car is serviced according to SEAT's schedule and uses OEM parts, the warranty will not be affected. Laws were put in place so that main dealerships couldn't have a monopoly on servicing their cars. Just keep a receipt of all the work done and the parts used.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/35704/watchdog-keeping-your-warranty-valid

Interestlingly some manufacturers try to get around this EU law. Most folk will have read about KIA's industry leading 7 year warranty? KIA will try to tell you their warranty favours their car's residual value. What they don't tell you is that in order to transfer the warranty to the next person, you must have the car serviced at a KIA dealership. You can keep the 7 year warranty yourself by having the car serviced at your local indi (as long as they service it according to the manufacturers schdule and use OEM parts as per EU law) but if you do, you can't transfer that warranty to the next owner.

I think you'll find SEAT only offer 2 year roadside assistance with their new cars. An extra year's assistance is included with every dealer service (booked online?). Manufacturers use little tricks like this to stop you going outside the dealer network.

I know the UKIP folk out there will find this hard to swallow, but Brussels does on occasion do some good. :lol:
 

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I feel for the oil company experts that have laboured to produce a product that does not require a change on a regular basis only to see some people sticking with old traditions regardless.
I worked for 30 years in the water industry helping to produce the finest quality drinking water in the world only to see some people still throwing it on the ground to water a bit of grass or still buying ludicrously expensive bottled water to drink.
Maybe the oil company people do have a product that will last more than one year. :)
Totally off-topic, so apologies to others ! :D
I almost agree with you too, abou the water thing, as someone who worked in the public water industry in Scotland for 6 years! However, I was happy to chuck potable water on my grass and use it to wash my cars, because in paying my water charges I was also paying for the treatment and distribution of woeful amounts of water that was leaking from public supply, and never reaching my tap due to the state of the infrastructure; OFWAT took a position on that in E&W; the Water Industry Commissioner in Scotland eventually got a grip along with Scottish Water on that through major capital investment! In fact, old Sir Iain Byatt ended up working here in Scotland for a few years as part of the Commissioners Office
Just the ageing Victorian water & sewerage infrastructure UK-wide; think things are hopefully different now, but haven't researched current leakage targets or performance in Scotland. :D
 

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I think you'll find that leakage is much improved over the years since privatisation of the water industry. Leakage is an easy factor to monitor and a stick to beat water companies with.

Meanwhile, what about long lasting oil? Is there still a time element where short, low mileage journeys allowed condensation to build as sludge in the rocker box?
Oh dear, showing my age. Don't think they have rocker boxes anymore :oops:

I'll get my coat and adjust my tappets :D
 
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