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Yes exactly like the yeti. Although I had not noticed it on the yeti until you said! Has a tendency to make the alloys look smaller than they are because of all the space. 18 inch alloys look bigger on the likes of the tiguan because of the high profile tyres. Just me?
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The Tiguan goes to 20" on the R-Line
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/tiguan-nf/which-model-compare/details/2488#!#wheels-paint
Most German sporty cars have very low profile wheels. The handling is suppose to be much tighter on low profile tyres but can give you a bone shaker ride. You are relying on the suspension being good and the seating. German roads are very smooth.
I've got an extra inch by going to the 19" Ateca rather than the R-Line. I opted for 19" rather than standard 18" Ateca purely for looks and I don't mind the firm ride myself.
Without low profile tyres it wouldn't give motoring journalists the opportunity to advise against them, say go for the 17" and I wouldn't have them. Then the other thing that they have is the ability to tell their readers they are wasting money on the top of the range model and the best tip is to buy the comfort model blah, blah, the same way as the guy in today's video was saying plug in your Android or Apple phone for navigation. Assuming you have a plan, your not taking the car abroad and you aren't in dead not spots. It's an ask always being connected and can be expensive when abroad and doesn't give you lane guidance for in town driving.
I did do a bit of research on the availability of the Ateca 19" tyres and they aren't so available as the 17" I'm use to, so currently my favourite tyre place, Protyres doesn't stock them and my favourite make doesn't make them. Hoping by the time I need new tyres things will have changed.
Think you can work on the basis that the Ateca is designed for the German market whatever the marketing men say, where low profile tyres rule.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/tiguan-nf/which-model-compare/details/2488#!#wheels-paint
Most German sporty cars have very low profile wheels. The handling is suppose to be much tighter on low profile tyres but can give you a bone shaker ride. You are relying on the suspension being good and the seating. German roads are very smooth.
I've got an extra inch by going to the 19" Ateca rather than the R-Line. I opted for 19" rather than standard 18" Ateca purely for looks and I don't mind the firm ride myself.
Without low profile tyres it wouldn't give motoring journalists the opportunity to advise against them, say go for the 17" and I wouldn't have them. Then the other thing that they have is the ability to tell their readers they are wasting money on the top of the range model and the best tip is to buy the comfort model blah, blah, the same way as the guy in today's video was saying plug in your Android or Apple phone for navigation. Assuming you have a plan, your not taking the car abroad and you aren't in dead not spots. It's an ask always being connected and can be expensive when abroad and doesn't give you lane guidance for in town driving.
I did do a bit of research on the availability of the Ateca 19" tyres and they aren't so available as the 17" I'm use to, so currently my favourite tyre place, Protyres doesn't stock them and my favourite make doesn't make them. Hoping by the time I need new tyres things will have changed.
Think you can work on the basis that the Ateca is designed for the German market whatever the marketing men say, where low profile tyres rule.
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Low profile purely for looks, great for handling on dry open roads but crap in snow and mud. Larger the wheel crapper the performance in snow generally, you dont see a defender with 20inch alloys as standard haha. Now putting on larger profile tyre could cause a world of pain if the cars set up for these profiles, as by increasing the profile you are increasing the diameter of the wheel, think of your speedo output etc. Also in the off road pics ive seen the wheel sits nicely in the arch during certain positions.
Thers plenty of articles im sure for a good read.
Thers plenty of articles im sure for a good read.
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PS: remember theres only 4 points of contact that keep you and your pride and joy on the road, thats why i wont skimp on tyres.
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Bit like Hobson Choice if you can only get the Ateca in 17" or 18" wheels what difference does 1" make in snow. Weight distribution of more contact with low profile tyres in snow prevent them sinking and gripping but how much does that inch make and how often do you get snow in the UK. In Germany and other parts of Europe and Japan you have to change to winter tyres in season and by location keeping a stack of four tyres spare by season, thankfully we don't have to do that. That's why I opt for Japanese tyres since they know about snow and bad weather, I pleasantly saw that the brand I've been using for eight years are highly rated on wet roads, climatic similarity with Japan.
Basically we start off with a new brand of tyre now so if you don't ditch them immediately you have to make a choice of future brand down the road. Given they wear out fairly frequently you have to consider the high cost of big brand names against little known but well regarded tyres, rummage those test reports. As I've muttered before I don't get my tyres from Seat if I can help it due the premium prices and they don't have the test equipment for 4 wheel laser alignment.
So anyhow, I've yet to research whether the Ateca needs 4 wheel alignment, most VW cars do. It's a back adjustment same as the front on angle and splay. These should be checked annually or if you hit the kerb or a big hole. If not done then your tyres wear out quicker with edge wear. Think we can assume it will require 4 wheel alignment, this is irrespective of whether it's 2WD or 4Drive.
Basically we start off with a new brand of tyre now so if you don't ditch them immediately you have to make a choice of future brand down the road. Given they wear out fairly frequently you have to consider the high cost of big brand names against little known but well regarded tyres, rummage those test reports. As I've muttered before I don't get my tyres from Seat if I can help it due the premium prices and they don't have the test equipment for 4 wheel laser alignment.
So anyhow, I've yet to research whether the Ateca needs 4 wheel alignment, most VW cars do. It's a back adjustment same as the front on angle and splay. These should be checked annually or if you hit the kerb or a big hole. If not done then your tyres wear out quicker with edge wear. Think we can assume it will require 4 wheel alignment, this is irrespective of whether it's 2WD or 4Drive.
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Falken
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falken_Tire
You see the brand all over Japan part of Sumitomo Rubber Industries. They entered a joint development deal with Dunlop so you see Dunlop / Falken tyre outlets across Japan. So I was more than happy when Protyres offered me these very good tyres that nobody knows about in the UK in their words. My current 17" ones costs about £200 each, 225/45R/17 W. But what I did find was that the Ateca 19" ones were so specialised they didn't make them and Protyres don't stock any tyres that would fit, so when the time comes I got to review what I'm doing. I suspect they get in specialist tyres whilst you are there the same way as they send out for motor parts. Cross that bridge when we get to it. I use Protyres for the annual 4 wheel alignment, have the tyres done and let them pick up other stuff as my cost cutting plan not to pay dealer prices on repairs if it's a straightforward fitters job. Service I do get from Seat and suspension work. Discs and callipers, wheel bearing I give to Protyre. Bearing in mind it's a near 12 year old car. Seat costs have been a bit astronomical on the routine wheel stuff in the past. Nice badged VW parts mind you. Ateca will be good for two years on this stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falken_Tire
You see the brand all over Japan part of Sumitomo Rubber Industries. They entered a joint development deal with Dunlop so you see Dunlop / Falken tyre outlets across Japan. So I was more than happy when Protyres offered me these very good tyres that nobody knows about in the UK in their words. My current 17" ones costs about £200 each, 225/45R/17 W. But what I did find was that the Ateca 19" ones were so specialised they didn't make them and Protyres don't stock any tyres that would fit, so when the time comes I got to review what I'm doing. I suspect they get in specialist tyres whilst you are there the same way as they send out for motor parts. Cross that bridge when we get to it. I use Protyres for the annual 4 wheel alignment, have the tyres done and let them pick up other stuff as my cost cutting plan not to pay dealer prices on repairs if it's a straightforward fitters job. Service I do get from Seat and suspension work. Discs and callipers, wheel bearing I give to Protyre. Bearing in mind it's a near 12 year old car. Seat costs have been a bit astronomical on the routine wheel stuff in the past. Nice badged VW parts mind you. Ateca will be good for two years on this stuff.
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thanks Tell
always interested to hear what brands people use ~ have to admit with a high turnover of vehicles in the last 5 years I've probably only been to the tyre place a couple of times ~ last time being a nearly new tyre blipping on side wall from a pot hole grrrrr
always interested to hear what brands people use ~ have to admit with a high turnover of vehicles in the last 5 years I've probably only been to the tyre place a couple of times ~ last time being a nearly new tyre blipping on side wall from a pot hole grrrrr
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Always remember a few years back, guy in local tyre place said he could do me a great deal on a couple of stunners when I went in for two new fronts. I assumed he meant stunning quality tyres. Tidy I thought.
When I got home and checked to see what he'd given me, I discovered the make was Stunner!! Lol.
Anyone know what tyres the Ateca actually rolls off the line on??
Mines fully maintained inc tyres and they always request Michelin primacy, but just wondering what I'll be starting off on??
When I got home and checked to see what he'd given me, I discovered the make was Stunner!! Lol.
Anyone know what tyres the Ateca actually rolls off the line on??
Mines fully maintained inc tyres and they always request Michelin primacy, but just wondering what I'll be starting off on??
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Ive seen pictures with Bridgestone, Falken and Pirelli, ill let you know Friday what mine come on, i imagine it will be a premium tyre. Well it best be for the price haha
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Good they are using Falken 
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There is a German thread on it
https://www.ateca-forum.de/index.php/Thread/1101-Reifen-bei-Auslieferung/?postID=11823&s=6944e5837a947332b28a3bc0362c867ec097869e
Looks like I might be on Bridgestone Dueler in 19" form.
.There is a German thread on it
https://www.ateca-forum.de/index.php/Thread/1101-Reifen-bei-Auslieferung/?postID=11823&s=6944e5837a947332b28a3bc0362c867ec097869e
Looks like I might be on Bridgestone Dueler in 19" form.
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They are good tyres, effectively Dunlops since they are in partnership. You do get a lot of rain in Japan which is why they work in wet weather well I concluded after I read a report saying they were good on wet roads. Other types of road not so good as I recall. Could have been a Which report. use to get all this tyre chatter stuff from my brother that he'd found the best tyres etc etc. I stuck to my £200 ones.
Read all about them... or look at the pictures:
http://www.falken.co.jp/
I would like to replace the ones that come with Falken when they wear out but at the minute they don't make them for the rim. Been on Falken's for 6-8 years now.
Read all about them... or look at the pictures:
http://www.falken.co.jp/
I would like to replace the ones that come with Falken when they wear out but at the minute they don't make them for the rim. Been on Falken's for 6-8 years now.
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That set of tyres has lasted you well :lol: :lol:Tell said:
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Duration not the same tyres... fronts every two years or so, backs every four or so. The spare I never had on, so it's the original. The bearings did take a toll on the back on one occasion so I changed them.
I know you people that keep changing your cars every three years so never get to the point when the bearings go and you get that lovely noise. The other one sounds like your de-icing cans rolling about under the seat, that's broken suspension. The Altea is so good you can do 1,200 mile trip to Germany and back on a broken coil spring. Not recommended thou, it's that spring when fitted the lovely Seat mechanics that was never fitted correctly so it started rattling around on a trip to Ireland and back. Broken coil springs can stab the tyre and cause instant deflation which happened to the partner's Fiat.
Had the front and back bearings changed in the last near 12 years (cue debate on whether you get them both done together). Same exhaust which is a record, I've never had a car where the exhaust pipe hasn't dropped off. Seat electronics... hmm new ABS / Stability thingey box that was £1,200. Engine management box about £1,000, they went in the first five years. I'm probably going to take out the extended warranty after I've read it just to make sure they don't exclude too much.
I know you people that keep changing your cars every three years so never get to the point when the bearings go and you get that lovely noise. The other one sounds like your de-icing cans rolling about under the seat, that's broken suspension. The Altea is so good you can do 1,200 mile trip to Germany and back on a broken coil spring. Not recommended thou, it's that spring when fitted the lovely Seat mechanics that was never fitted correctly so it started rattling around on a trip to Ireland and back. Broken coil springs can stab the tyre and cause instant deflation which happened to the partner's Fiat.
Had the front and back bearings changed in the last near 12 years (cue debate on whether you get them both done together). Same exhaust which is a record, I've never had a car where the exhaust pipe hasn't dropped off. Seat electronics... hmm new ABS / Stability thingey box that was £1,200. Engine management box about £1,000, they went in the first five years. I'm probably going to take out the extended warranty after I've read it just to make sure they don't exclude too much.
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This is my first ever brand new car, the depreciation scrares me, i had my A3 5 years, and i wont be changing the Ateca after 3 years, changed plenty of parts on cars in my time.
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