Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

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Silvertouran
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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Silvertouran » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:43 pm

Around Central Scotland it’s about 10-11p more expensive than petrol so I’m not even sure if the better fuel economy from the diesel pays for itself over a tank of fuel. I must admit though i do like the torque from a turbo Diesel engine, i get nice mid range pull.

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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Lcchull » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:59 pm

How I use my car is up to me
I’m happy it’s economical I can’t see the problem I’m the one paying for it I thought this thread was about economy of the vehicle
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Silvertouran
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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Silvertouran » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 pm

Lcchull wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:59 pm
How I use my car is up to me
I’m happy it’s economical I can’t see the problem I’m the one paying for it I thought this thread was about economy of the vehicle
Who is telling you how to use your car?

Ste
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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Ste » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:18 am

Silvertouran wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:43 pm
Around Central Scotland it’s about 10-11p more expensive than petrol so I’m not even sure if the better fuel economy from the diesel pays for itself over a tank of fuel. I must admit though i do like the torque from a turbo Diesel engine, i get nice mid range pull.
Good point, also when you take in the extra cost of a diesel to buy, say an extra 2k and if you keep the car for 3 years you have to do a lot of miles to get your money back, it’s always put me off diesels.

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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by elevenses » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:45 pm

Sorry for the thread ressurection but...

I have owned many Petrol and Diesel cars (In the trade for 40 years, so most free!) and have noted:

Diesel cars always provide underwhelming economy if you look at figures. especially, and this is the big bit, when used for short journeys. Diesels are very efficient but take a long time to warm up, unlike a tiny (1.0TSi?) Petrol which is efficient within minutes.

Petrol cars are more responsive to driving style. It's astonishing what a small Petrol can do in terms of MPG if you pussyfoot around! Drive one hard and weep however, the figures can drop to alarming levels (I drove a Smart ForTwo 1.0 Turbo briskly and it did 33mpg, which is dire!)

All the 4cyl Diesels cost more and are less refined than similarly powered Petrols, meaning the Petrol 'feels' like a more expensive car, and would be my choice these days given the difference in cost between the fuels.

My Yeti 1.6TDi averaged 50mpg, my Arona 1.0TSi averaged 50mpg...The Arona was (smaller but) way sweeter and quieter to drive and more fun, without the regeneration issues (no actual issues with Yeti mind you) but this time I needed to tow a caravan.

Ateca 2.0TDi 190 4Drive is the current choice. Looking like low '40's for economy (have seen 50 on a pre-warmed gentle drive, but suggest 42-4 typical) and hoping for 30mpg towing a 1400kg Caravan.

Not comparable, as it's way faster than the previous cars, but good for a heavy 4WD nevertheless.

The 1.6TDi should average 45-50mpg unless used frequently from cold for short trips, which kills it....
2016 2.0TDi Xcellence 4drive 190 in metallic White with lots of toys...

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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Colfair » Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:26 pm

63 mpg? In my most eager dreams !!! Having just done 1500 miles in my first month I’m looking at very low 40’s combined . To get into the 50’s I’d be holding up following traffic.

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Post by PSC21 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:39 pm

I have had several VAG 2.0 tds all seem to give best power and economy after about 18k . I also had tdi tuning boxes on all and that improved brim to brim mpg figures and noticeably more power.
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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Rory » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:22 pm

PSC21 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:39 pm
I have had several VAG 2.0 tds all seem to give best power and economy after about 18k . I also had tdi tuning boxes on all and that improved brim to brim mpg figures and noticeably more power.
People often say that about all sorts of cars, but I have to say I've never experienced it.

I've spreadsheeted the MPG of our Tiguan, which, as a late mk1 with EA288 engine, is, I believe, excactly the same as current Ateca, and its brim to brim calculated MPG has been remarkably consistent since new - 38MPG, always on Shell V-Power. It's really only used for semi-rural short trips of 4-5 miles, with a short stop (ie school run or shopping) then return home.

If, unusually, the car does a long run such as a couple of 80 mile round trips to the airport or 300 miles to inlaws, then that tank will be mid to high 40's.
Ateca SE-L 1.0TSi - Sept 18 - daughter's
Tiguan Match 2.0TDi 4Motion DSG - Sept 15 - wife's
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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by PSC21 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:25 pm

The post diesel gate EA189 2.0 is different from the EA288 . With the TDI tuning chip my Biturbo Tiguan 4motion would give 55 mpg on trip to Penzance from Essex. Best ever was EA288 DSG in my 2014 VW CC , 60 MPG on same Cornwall trip
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Re: Poor mpg in our 1.6 tdi se Technology

Post by Rory » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:10 pm

PSC21 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:25 pm
The post diesel gate EA189 2.0 is different from the EA288 . With the TDI tuning chip my Biturbo Tiguan 4motion would give 55 mpg on trip to Penzance from Essex. Best ever was EA288 DSG in my 2014 VW CC , 60 MPG on same Cornwall trip
EA288 is the newer, still current, engine. EA189 is the deiselgate one.
Ateca SE-L 1.0TSi - Sept 18 - daughter's
Tiguan Match 2.0TDi 4Motion DSG - Sept 15 - wife's
Thinking about something with 7 seats to replace my old Mercedes C270CDi Estate

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