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11K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by  Tec  
#1 ·
Hello All

I'm looking at getting an Ateca 2017 xcellence trim - 1.4 exotsi with the 7 speed DsG transmission. I've checked the gearbox variant and it's the DQ200 dry clutch. The dealer assured me that the issues were restricted to vehicles in the 2008-2013 timeframe. There have been no official recalls in the UK for the DSG and Seat aren't providing a confirmation on transmission issues or fix if it goes wrong. My question is if the DSG issues are present in 2017 and later models. I can live with the kangaroo effect and whatever else the dsg may throw up but if it could potentially just fail would be a disaster. I've also looked into an extended warranty that could cover the risk and the Seat warranty says this
Clutch pressure plates and Retailer plates are excluded (DSG clutches are covered for the full warranty offered with the vehicle). I'm not sure what that means. I'm really hoping for some feedback from folks if the DsG issues are indeed fixed post 2013. Many thanks and hopefully a Seat owner soon
 
#4 ·
Many thanks for that vote of confidence.

I've got a 2017 xcellence DSg on reserve and looking forward to the test drive. It's been a couple of weeks and the dealer still doesn't have it on the forecourt. Apparently all used Seats are now prepared at a single location prior to being sent to the various dealers. Could possibly explain the delays.
Thanks again for the positive feedback on the dsg
 
#5 ·
Like any mechanical device you can get a good one and a bad one. You were right to question the DQ200 but if you look at all those horror stories, few actually have the date when the gearbox was manufactured. Basically the problems related to the type of oil they originally used. And then you have to look at how many gearboxes were sold. The DQ200 is / was fitted to Audi's, VW's SEAT, Skoda - it's a very common gearbox. Now if they were inherently faulty, everyone would be having a problem and they certainly wouldn't still be selling the gearbox.

Regarding the exclusions on the warranty, well it's no different from a manual car - nobody is going to warrant any wear and tear component ( not on a used car anyway ). The only way it would be covered by warrranty is say if you have a brand new clutch fitted. I'd forget the warranty and concentrate on your legal rights. As long as you haven't bought it privately or at auction then the car has to be fit for purpose. If the gearbox goes BANG within the first 6 months then it's assumed it was faulty when you purchased it.

Read as much as you can on how to detect any potential faults so you know what to look out for on the test drive.

You do not have to live with the Kangaroo effect, there was a software fix for this which should have been applied. You only need to ask the dealer if it's been applied. Plenty of people have had the latest fix applied and it's worked.
 
#7 ·
Thanks again. Test drive scheduled for tomorrow
 
#8 ·
Golfmk56 said:
Like any mechanical device you can get a good one and a bad one. You were right to question the DQ200 but if you look at all those horror stories, few actually have the date when the gearbox was manufactured. Basically the problems related to the type of oil they originall y used. And then you have to look at how many gearboxes were sold. The DQ200 is / was fitted to Audi's, VW's SEAT, Skoda - it's a very common gearbox. Now if they were inherently faulty, everyone would be having a problem and they certainly wouldn't still be selling the gearbox.
Well said.

It's basically very old news. You should contact Honest John at the Telegraph to persuade him to change his dreadful advice to all his readers to avoid this box at any price. I am surprised that VAGs lawyers haven' t had a word with him to tell him to stop spreading inaccurate information that is detrimental to their business.

I absolutely love my DSG box, especially if you use the paddles.
 
#9 ·
Had the test drive today..lovely. I tested the DSG from cold with no issues. I did notice a slight takeup from 4th to 5th. It hesitates for a second and then goes. But its was probably just me going from a manual. I tested the park assist which was very good but scary initially. I just couldn't figure out how to start traffic jam assist. The dealer said I needed to start it with the ACC but although I had lane assist on I couldn't test it. And the colour lava blue is stunning.
 
#11 ·
Fred99 said:
You should contact Honest John at the Telegraph to persuade him to change his dreadful advice to all his readers to avoid this box at any price. I am surprised that VAGs lawyers haven' t had a word with him to tell him to stop spreading inaccurate information that is detrimental to their business.
The guy was out of control. There were far more serious matters HJ was guilty of, for instance how he got away with saying someone was a murderer and guilty when a court of law said the exact opposite ( several of his rants on left-foot braking ) is beyond me. He really should have been sued - perhaps he was in someway, we'll never know. He also said anyone who never used their left foot to brake would eventually kill someone. :shock: I asked Mark Nicol, who IMO, is one of the most tallented motoring journalists out there, and who reviewed for HJ on Youtube whether he left foot braked or not. He said no. :D So even those who worked for him wisely didn't take his advice.

You mention VAG lawyers? VAG went one better than that Fred99 - HonestJohn went into administration earlier this year after significant cashflow problems. The publication was bought over by Heycar which I believe is run by a German group, one partner being VW financial services ! I'm not sure if that's just irony or too much of a coincidence.
 
#12 ·
Oh dear...was it covered at all under warranty? I've heard the costs are in the low thousands and at just 38k you would think Seat would step in